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		<title>By: Dr. Leah</title>
		<link>http://www.singlemommyhood.com/2010/08/what-exactly-is-child-support-supposed-to-cover/comment-page-2/#comment-12776</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;E: &lt;/strong&gt;Good thoughts! Thanks for joining the conversation.</description>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clothes and a bathing suit? Perhaps.  I wouldn&#039;t pack anything that you wouldn&#039;t be ok with getting back (or not getting back) in less than acceptable condition.  If your child were still in bottles and diapers, maybe a couple, but I feel both parents should have their owns supplies of those regardless of C/S or not.  Maybe allow your daughter to pack a a couple favorite books and a favorite toy.  But things like her &quot;personal DVD player&quot;? Absolutely not.  If Dad wants the convenience of such amenities he can purchase his own for her time with him.  He needs to have some supplies of his own--he&#039;s a parent, not a sitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clothes and a bathing suit? Perhaps.  I wouldn&#8217;t pack anything that you wouldn&#8217;t be ok with getting back (or not getting back) in less than acceptable condition.  If your child were still in bottles and diapers, maybe a couple, but I feel both parents should have their owns supplies of those regardless of C/S or not.  Maybe allow your daughter to pack a a couple favorite books and a favorite toy.  But things like her &#8220;personal DVD player&#8221;? Absolutely not.  If Dad wants the convenience of such amenities he can purchase his own for her time with him.  He needs to have some supplies of his own&#8211;he&#8217;s a parent, not a sitter.<br />
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		<title>By: Rachel Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nicole: Here&#039;s to staying calm during all that stress. Bravo, that&#039;s BIG in our world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nicole: Here&#8217;s to staying calm during all that stress. Bravo, that&#8217;s BIG in our world.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to provide my ex with clothes when he would take our children, knowing how quickly they out grew them I didn&#039;t think he should have to buy them clothes that they&#039;d only get to wear four or five times.  He would always send their clothes home stained or with holes and didn&#039;t think he should have to replace the damaged clothes when I asked him too, using the fact that he paid CS and therefore he already did that.  In our state, the support he pays is to help offset the cost of raising the kids when they are in my care, the custodial parent, and that the non-custodial parent is responsible for everything when they are in his care.  I talked to my lawyer first, we were still going through our divorce, and told him that I would no longer send clothes with the kids when he picked them up and gave him a list of their sizes and the specific types of things they liked, so he could purchase clothes to keep at his house.  He threw a fit and threatened to take the kids from me because of it, however I calmly told him to contact his own lawyer if he had any questions.  I never heard another word about it and he has been providing clothes for our children while they&#039;re at his house for the last 5 years.  I do know that his new wife refuses to let any of their clothes come back to our house, even though I know they&#039;d go back to him in the same condition the came here, but that&#039;s a completely different story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to provide my ex with clothes when he would take our children, knowing how quickly they out grew them I didn&#8217;t think he should have to buy them clothes that they&#8217;d only get to wear four or five times.  He would always send their clothes home stained or with holes and didn&#8217;t think he should have to replace the damaged clothes when I asked him too, using the fact that he paid CS and therefore he already did that.  In our state, the support he pays is to help offset the cost of raising the kids when they are in my care, the custodial parent, and that the non-custodial parent is responsible for everything when they are in his care.  I talked to my lawyer first, we were still going through our divorce, and told him that I would no longer send clothes with the kids when he picked them up and gave him a list of their sizes and the specific types of things they liked, so he could purchase clothes to keep at his house.  He threw a fit and threatened to take the kids from me because of it, however I calmly told him to contact his own lawyer if he had any questions.  I never heard another word about it and he has been providing clothes for our children while they&#8217;re at his house for the last 5 years.  I do know that his new wife refuses to let any of their clothes come back to our house, even though I know they&#8217;d go back to him in the same condition the came here, but that&#8217;s a completely different story!</p>
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		<title>By: Lives4books</title>
		<link>http://www.singlemommyhood.com/2010/08/what-exactly-is-child-support-supposed-to-cover/comment-page-2/#comment-12062</link>
		<dc:creator>Lives4books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same boat here- the ex doesn&#039;t even have his own residence, when he takes his visits, he takes the kids to his family, or friends&#039; homes or campsites etc. and they crash on sofas or floors with whoever will take them in. I have to pack everything- and then he bitches about what I send! (The quality or quantity of clothing they arrive with isn&#039;t good enough, the kids&#039; shoes are worn out, I failed to anticipate they would need swimsuits and sunblock so he &quot;couldn&#039;t&quot; take them swimming, etc...and this when he is six months behind in his VERY minimal support.) I tried the &quot;don&#039;t send them with anything&quot; approach- he simply got back in his car at drop off and refused to take them. And then when I did start sending things again, so the kids could actually see their dad, he and his family began keeping half the kids&#039; clothes I packed so as to have a &quot;backup&quot; stockpile- which due to his infrequent visitation, the kids promptly outgrew. The clothes the in laws kept were then passed down to my ex&#039;s neices and nephews as hand me downs and not returned to me. (This still tends to happen when I send anything cute- it gets &quot;lost&quot;. Anything the kids are given as a gift for birthdays or holidays is not allowed to be brought home, either.) This past weekend he had the kids (1st time in 6 months) and signed my daughter up to run a 5k, and sent her home demanding I buy her new shoes to train in. It&#039;s insane. I wish I had better advice, I just stopped expecting I could control anything about his behavior. I provided him with a carseat from a yardsale and I only send stuff my kids can afford not to bring home- their oldest clothes, ONE pair of shoes so he can&#039;t keep anything, and toiletries from the dollar store. I send exactly enough doses of medicine and not a single extra. It&#039;s galling but one day I hope my kids will see it for what it is- that Dad can afford to go to bars and concerts and trips but not provide them with underwear or an extra pair of shorts. In the meanwhile I just grit my teeth and repeat &quot;This too shall pass&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same boat here- the ex doesn&#8217;t even have his own residence, when he takes his visits, he takes the kids to his family, or friends&#8217; homes or campsites etc. and they crash on sofas or floors with whoever will take them in. I have to pack everything- and then he bitches about what I send! (The quality or quantity of clothing they arrive with isn&#8217;t good enough, the kids&#8217; shoes are worn out, I failed to anticipate they would need swimsuits and sunblock so he &#8220;couldn&#8217;t&#8221; take them swimming, etc&#8230;and this when he is six months behind in his VERY minimal support.) I tried the &#8220;don&#8217;t send them with anything&#8221; approach- he simply got back in his car at drop off and refused to take them. And then when I did start sending things again, so the kids could actually see their dad, he and his family began keeping half the kids&#8217; clothes I packed so as to have a &#8220;backup&#8221; stockpile- which due to his infrequent visitation, the kids promptly outgrew. The clothes the in laws kept were then passed down to my ex&#8217;s neices and nephews as hand me downs and not returned to me. (This still tends to happen when I send anything cute- it gets &#8220;lost&#8221;. Anything the kids are given as a gift for birthdays or holidays is not allowed to be brought home, either.) This past weekend he had the kids (1st time in 6 months) and signed my daughter up to run a 5k, and sent her home demanding I buy her new shoes to train in. It&#8217;s insane. I wish I had better advice, I just stopped expecting I could control anything about his behavior. I provided him with a carseat from a yardsale and I only send stuff my kids can afford not to bring home- their oldest clothes, ONE pair of shoes so he can&#8217;t keep anything, and toiletries from the dollar store. I send exactly enough doses of medicine and not a single extra. It&#8217;s galling but one day I hope my kids will see it for what it is- that Dad can afford to go to bars and concerts and trips but not provide them with underwear or an extra pair of shorts. In the meanwhile I just grit my teeth and repeat &#8220;This too shall pass&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Leah</title>
		<link>http://www.singlemommyhood.com/2010/08/what-exactly-is-child-support-supposed-to-cover/comment-page-2/#comment-11962</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jessica:&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks for chiming in. Petty and short sighted - we agree!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jessica:</strong> Thanks for chiming in. Petty and short sighted &#8211; we agree!</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.singlemommyhood.com/2010/08/what-exactly-is-child-support-supposed-to-cover/comment-page-2/#comment-11959</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 07:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a child is at her father&#039;s house he is responsible for the essential things. He is responsible for half of the care of the children. That includes replacing something that was lost or broken at his home. Sounds like he&#039;s being very petty at the expense of the child, that&#039;s unfair to the child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a child is at her father&#8217;s house he is responsible for the essential things. He is responsible for half of the care of the children. That includes replacing something that was lost or broken at his home. Sounds like he&#8217;s being very petty at the expense of the child, that&#8217;s unfair to the child.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin LaMoure</title>
		<link>http://www.singlemommyhood.com/2010/08/what-exactly-is-child-support-supposed-to-cover/comment-page-2/#comment-11821</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin LaMoure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 04:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It strange now as I look back at the last 9 years of no child support from my two boys from their father and wonder how we have managed so well. They are now 13 and 15. He is now finally dis-barred from practicing law because of not paying child support and has chosen to not to work over having to pay me the little of financial support the court ordered for me with a 50-50 joint custody. 

It has been stressful, crazy making...I could relate to the dog food story, but never went there. Somehow I was always reminded to take the high road. I payed all the bills,health insurance,sports, school supplies, food, backpacks..name it I payed it.I am no saint, and not a trust fund mother I just somehow early on in our divorce knew how difficult my divorce was going to be from a lawyer and one of the variables I could control to ease the stress was just taking care of the kids. 

In hindsight I knew how violent the boys father could be so my first issue of concern was always their safety first and then food and clothing next. The boys were 4 and 6  when the divorce started and from the beginning the father was not willing to pay for a pair of shoes, let alone years later when we skip ahead to Orthodonture for both of them. It was simply easier to think he was out of the financial equation and stay grounded, not make a fuss and buy what needed to be purchased. Needless to say it is a huge strain but I have been doing it for some time now. Here is the twist to the story and the reason I am writing because both boys 2 years ago left their father on their own to live with me full time. Now I had my &quot;boys home&quot; and the added expense of 24/7 care. While I was always maintaining some integrity in one of the ugliest divorce cases in San Bernardino my boys knew they could always depend on me for food, clothes, keeping them in sports, doctors visits, and the dog and the cat did get fed. Supplying the father with clothes and food is enabling but in my case the extreme refusal to purchase anything for the boys by the father was concrete. 

I tried sending them back to his place with what they were originally wearing when I picked them up from school but they were in a mess every time. I do mean a real mess, the school would call me to bring fresh clothes for the boys to change into during his weeks and remind me they had no food or lunch card. Finally I kept an extra pair of clothes with the nurse and bought both boys lunch cards. I also left a case of protein bars in the classroom if they needed snacks during their breaks. 

It is incredibly painful to think that a father could be so disheartening about his own 2 sons but the sooner I took control of this situation the smoother the boys lives became. Someone also mentioned to me that my boys will watch how I handle stress and repeat that behavior when they encounter their own stress. This little tidbit went a long way for me. The most difficult part is putting logic to an emotional issue;children do cost money to raise and the irony is the boys fathers earns 3 times more in one month than what I make in a year so why quit your job?, get disbarred?,and not help at all? I still see the father in the court room because we are still in trial and wonder but never ask. I tried unsuccessfully from the start to share the expenses but the pain and anguish the children were going through was too much. 

For anyone hanging on looking for some extra help from the the other parent who does not want to contribute knows this puts the most burden on the children who can not understand the balance of separate homes, separate incomes. Life is supposed to be fair but often more times than not it is not going to work out the way one expected. For anyone doing this alone just keep putting one foot in front of the other, breathe, take the high road and hope your children know what you are doing for them. In my case they do and are turning out to be fine young men. 

It is an honor watching them grow up with integrity and ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strange now as I look back at the last 9 years of no child support from my two boys from their father and wonder how we have managed so well. They are now 13 and 15. He is now finally dis-barred from practicing law because of not paying child support and has chosen to not to work over having to pay me the little of financial support the court ordered for me with a 50-50 joint custody. </p>
<p>It has been stressful, crazy making&#8230;I could relate to the dog food story, but never went there. Somehow I was always reminded to take the high road. I payed all the bills,health insurance,sports, school supplies, food, backpacks..name it I payed it.I am no saint, and not a trust fund mother I just somehow early on in our divorce knew how difficult my divorce was going to be from a lawyer and one of the variables I could control to ease the stress was just taking care of the kids. </p>
<p>In hindsight I knew how violent the boys father could be so my first issue of concern was always their safety first and then food and clothing next. The boys were 4 and 6  when the divorce started and from the beginning the father was not willing to pay for a pair of shoes, let alone years later when we skip ahead to Orthodonture for both of them. It was simply easier to think he was out of the financial equation and stay grounded, not make a fuss and buy what needed to be purchased. Needless to say it is a huge strain but I have been doing it for some time now. Here is the twist to the story and the reason I am writing because both boys 2 years ago left their father on their own to live with me full time. Now I had my &#8220;boys home&#8221; and the added expense of 24/7 care. While I was always maintaining some integrity in one of the ugliest divorce cases in San Bernardino my boys knew they could always depend on me for food, clothes, keeping them in sports, doctors visits, and the dog and the cat did get fed. Supplying the father with clothes and food is enabling but in my case the extreme refusal to purchase anything for the boys by the father was concrete. </p>
<p>I tried sending them back to his place with what they were originally wearing when I picked them up from school but they were in a mess every time. I do mean a real mess, the school would call me to bring fresh clothes for the boys to change into during his weeks and remind me they had no food or lunch card. Finally I kept an extra pair of clothes with the nurse and bought both boys lunch cards. I also left a case of protein bars in the classroom if they needed snacks during their breaks. </p>
<p>It is incredibly painful to think that a father could be so disheartening about his own 2 sons but the sooner I took control of this situation the smoother the boys lives became. Someone also mentioned to me that my boys will watch how I handle stress and repeat that behavior when they encounter their own stress. This little tidbit went a long way for me. The most difficult part is putting logic to an emotional issue;children do cost money to raise and the irony is the boys fathers earns 3 times more in one month than what I make in a year so why quit your job?, get disbarred?,and not help at all? I still see the father in the court room because we are still in trial and wonder but never ask. I tried unsuccessfully from the start to share the expenses but the pain and anguish the children were going through was too much. </p>
<p>For anyone hanging on looking for some extra help from the the other parent who does not want to contribute knows this puts the most burden on the children who can not understand the balance of separate homes, separate incomes. Life is supposed to be fair but often more times than not it is not going to work out the way one expected. For anyone doing this alone just keep putting one foot in front of the other, breathe, take the high road and hope your children know what you are doing for them. In my case they do and are turning out to be fine young men. </p>
<p>It is an honor watching them grow up with integrity and ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: Nyota Vargas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nyota Vargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 01:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A comment was made that I agree with 100%. Don&#039;t provide items to the ex. It seems like the items are for his comfort, and if he wants to make things go smoothly and get some B***s then he should stand up and provide for his kid. That mom is actually being put upon to think for the father, I&#039;m sure she has enough on her plate raising a child.  I am a single mom and honestly my daughters father pays half school fees and all  medical, and he does not pay support,why? He just provides what ever she needs.  Because that is what parents do. No questions aksed.  I don&#039;t think he could ever give me enough money, there&#039;s always something needed. Its hard but I make it. It kills me when the non custodial parent complains about how much money is spent on raising children; its expensive, and what exactly would happen if you were with the mother? Would there still be a complaint if you guys were together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comment was made that I agree with 100%. Don&#8217;t provide items to the ex. It seems like the items are for his comfort, and if he wants to make things go smoothly and get some B***s then he should stand up and provide for his kid. That mom is actually being put upon to think for the father, I&#8217;m sure she has enough on her plate raising a child.  I am a single mom and honestly my daughters father pays half school fees and all  medical, and he does not pay support,why? He just provides what ever she needs.  Because that is what parents do. No questions aksed.  I don&#8217;t think he could ever give me enough money, there&#8217;s always something needed. Its hard but I make it. It kills me when the non custodial parent complains about how much money is spent on raising children; its expensive, and what exactly would happen if you were with the mother? Would there still be a complaint if you guys were together?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 22:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Anonymous: &lt;/strong&gt;Your relationship may not have succeeded. But, you&#039;re champs at co-parenting. Your ex is a GREAT dad.  Thanks so much for sharing your story with us. Please visit again soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Anonymous: </strong>Your relationship may not have succeeded. But, you&#8217;re champs at co-parenting. Your ex is a GREAT dad.  Thanks so much for sharing your story with us. Please visit again soon.</p>
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